“Agreed. What the father’s rights movement is really asking for is to put their wishes above those of the women and place them in danger (not just because pregnancy is medically dangerous to many women, but women who are pregnant are at higher risk of violence as well). It’s another way to control women.”
No, no and, um, well, no. The *true* fathers’ rights movement is trying to get fathers more rights with kids who are already born. I don’t know of any legit fathers’ rights organization which is trying to control a woman during pregnancy. If you can provide me info on one or more of those organizations which are I will gladly read up on them.
http://www.fatherhoodforever.org/awareness.html
http://www.fathers-resources.com/FreeResources/News/tabid/512/Default.aspx
http://www.canlaw.com/rights/menright.htm
I don’t know about you, but I’m seeing a lot of misogynistic language in there about women ‘entrapping’ men into fatherhood, or research about men being abused by women ( ignoring that while men are victims of physical and sexual abuse, it’s more often at the hands of other men than women), and yes, stating that men’s rights should trump a woman’s decision with regards to her own body and abortion or pregnancy. In any case, this is where you point out how these are not true father’s/men’s rights movements, and only true father’s rights movements believe X, and we get all cosy in our No True Scotsman tent, even though I would wager a lot more groups believe in controlling women’s bodies than you seem to think - they’ve just learned it’s not politic to come right out and say it.